Donnie Dickens, a pastor from Alabama, had a strong desire for more impactful ministry and realized that the traditional mold of ministry was not the best approach. Through research and reading books by Frank Viola, he discovered alternative ways of doing church and saw the need for a shift in focus. In this episode, he emphasizes the importance of genuine worship, smaller but more clear disciple making, and breaking free from traditional practices that may hinder growth. 

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